House of Commons Journal Volume 1: 29 April 1626

Sabbati 29o Aprilis

Committees.

BILL concerning Attorneys, - Monday, Two Clock . And all, that will come, to have Voice.

Bill for Preservation of Salmons, &c. - Tuesday next, Two Clock.

Ward's Bill, - Tuesday, Two Clock.

Bp. of Bangor.

The Committee for Religion, to proceed in the Business for the Lord Bishop of Bangor, upon Monday in the Afternoon ; and so to adjourn themselves, as they shall find fittest, for Dispatch of the Business.

Religion.

The Committee for Religion to have Power to make Sub-committees, to go and examine any, that be sick, or in Prison, or other lawful Impediment, concerning Saying of Mass, or Printing of Popish Books, or other Thing of that Nature.

Dover.

Wednesday next, - Two Clock, for Dover Business.

Apothecaries.

A Petition, from some of the Apothecaries, read. This referred to the Committee for the Bill of Apothecaries ; and they to hear Counsel of both Parts.

Sewster's Petition.

A Petition, from Mr. Sewster, read.

Mr. Coryton, Sir Tho. Grantham, Sir Wm. Strode, Sir P. Hayman, Mr. Smyth, Mr. Newbery, Sir Rich. Buller, Mr. Browne, Sir Cl. Throckmorton, Sir A. Temple, Sir A. St. John, Sir Jo. Savyle, Mr. Bysse, Mr. Greene, Mr. Speccott, Sir Ch. Morrison, Sir Jo. Gyll, Mr. Poole, Mr. Earle, added to the Committee : - Thursday next, Two Clock, in the former Place.

Contagion.

Mr. Vice-chamberlain moveth, a select Committee, for drawing a Bill to prevent Contagion. -

Mr Vice-chamberlain, Mr. Chancellor Duchy, Knights, and Citizens of London, and Westmynster, and Southwark, Sir Nath. Rich, Sir Tho. Grantham, Dr. Turnor, Sir H. Poole, Sir Geor. More. Sir Ro. Harley, Sir Jo. Finch, Sir H. Lyne, Sir Nich. Saunders, Sir Francis Goodwyn, Sir A. Ingram, Sir Tho. Dacres, Mr. Littleton, Mr. Clarcke, Mr. Rolles, Mr. Noy, Sir B. Rudyard, Sir Jo. Stradling, Sir Wm. Slingsby, Sir Jo. Savyle, Mr. Lowther, Sir H. Martyn, Sir Tho. Puckering, Mr. Spencer, Sir Tho. Barrington, Mr. Carvyle, Sir Wm. Owen, Mr. Francis Finch : - Monday, next, Two Clock, Star-chamber; [with] Power to send for Physicians, and Apothecaries.

General Fast.

Much Debate, whether this Question [a] should be first put; or a Question, for a select Committee, to consider of the Reasons, for which we move it.

Upon Question, a select Committee to be named, to consider of, and set down, the Reasons, which shall be used by the Committee, when we pray a Conference with the Lords about a general Fast. - Mr. Vice-chamberlain, Mr. Chancellor Exchequer, Mr. Chancellor Duchy, Sir Edw. Sands, Sir Nath. Rich Mr. Pymme, Sir D. Digges, Sir Geor. More, Sir J. Perroth Sir Jo. Stradling, Sir Ro. Maunsell, Sir Tho. Hobby, Sir Tho. Pye, Mr. Newbery, Sir Tho. Barrington, Sir W. Earle, Sir Ro. Harley, Sir Ew. Thelluall, Mr. Coryton, Sir H. Poole:

- This Afternoon, Two Clock, Exchequer Chamber.

Message from the King. - D. of Buckingham.

Mr. Chancellor of the Exchequer delivereth a Message from his Majesty ; That he, having given way to the Enquiry about the Duke of Buckingham; and hearing, there is new Matter intended to be brought in ; in respect of the Season of the Year, and the Affairs of the State, desireth, the House therein will avoid all Loss of Time ; and leaveth them to their own Way, either by presenting the . . to himself, or to the Lords.

Thanks on Message.

Mr. Chancellor of the Exchequer, and Mr. Vice-chamberlain, and Chancellor Duchy, to return humble Message.

Thanks to his Majesty, for this gracious Message.

Mountagew's Books.

Upon Question, Mr. Mountagew guilty, in his Books, of publishing Matter, contrary to the Doctrine of the Church of England.

2ly, That many seditious Passages in those Books of Mr. Mountagew, apparently tending to the publick Disturbance of Church and State.

3ly, That many Passages in those Books, tending to draw the Subjects of this Kingdom from the Doctrine of the Church of England to the Doctrine of the Church of Rome.

Upon Question, Resolved, The Four several Heads of Aggravations, reported, to be added to his Charge. - All, without One Negative.

Upon Question, these Charges upon Mr. Mountagew to be transmitted to the Lords, for their Judgment upon them.

Mr. Pymme reporteth, that the Committee thought fittest, the Way to be by a Conference with the Lords, and the Charge to be distributed into Five Parts : 1. An

Introduction : 2ly, The Charges concerning Doctrine: 3. Matter of Sedition : 4. The Seducing of the King's Subjects: 5. The Matter of Aggravation, and praying of Judgment.

Sir Na. Rich: - To have all this done by Mr. Pymme ; and to have it done, not at a Conference, but by a Message, to be delivered at the Bar in the Lords House, where it may be more publick : Which is the ancient Way, and not fit for us to lose ; and so was done 12 Jac. by Sir Edw. Hobby, against the Bishop of Durham.

- Which Ordered, upon Question. -

This shall be delivered to the Lords, by way of Message ; and this to be delivered by Mr. Pymme, at such time, as Mr. Pymme shall inform the House, that he can be ready; and the Exceptions to the Books to be there left, in Writing, for the better Expedition of the Business : The same Writing to be first agreed upon by the former Committee.

Affairs with Fraunce.

Mr. Mathewes informeth the House, that a new Stay is made of the Merchants Goods in Fraunce, upon Pretence of Losses sustained here by unjust Stay of the St. Peter.

The further Debate thereof referred to Monday next, Nine Clock, upon Question.

Privilege - Member excommunicated, &c.

Mr. Selden tendereth Interrogatories, touching the Proceedings against Sir Ro. Howard.

Moved Sir H. Martyn should withdraw.

Sir H. Martyn heard to speak for himself. - That he hath neither vilified, in Word, nor Act, the Privileges of this House, in the Person of Sir Ro. Howard. His Answer Four Heads :

1. That he knew not, Privilege of Parliament was due to Sir Ro. Howard, 5o or 7o Martii was twelve-month.

The Parliament, 5 Martii, prorogued to 20o Apr. after. He knew not, he was a Parliament Man, or ever had been; nor, that, 3o Martii, any Speech of a Parliament. But 17o Martii he claimed it, and it was then disputed. That he then knew not, he was to have Privilege of Parliament, though he knew he was a Parliament Man.

2ly, That he was not bound to take Notice, that he ought to have that Privilege. This Knowlege out of his Profession. He never had been a Parliament Man : He never had read any thing about it ; nor knew, what a Prorogation meant, nor the Difference between that, and an Adjournment. Thinketh, every Man is to take Notice of Privilege of a Parliament Man, in Parliament-time, and eundo and redeundo.

3ly, He gave no Opinion in it, nor ever was asked the Question. It came never so low as Mr. Comptroller, there being no room for him to sit at the Table.

4ly, It had not been mannerly for him to have opposed, there being there so, many experienced Parliament . . and he having had none.

Sir Wm. Beecher: - That Mr. Comptroller is sick.

Sir H. Martyn, by Direction of the House, after his Speech, withdrew. -

1. That he knew nothing, that Sir Ro. was a Parliament Man 5 Martii, 1624. But put his Hand to the Warrant, when brought him.

2ly, That they use not to sit, but in full Term. Upon Occasions, upon the King's Command, or upon the Lord of Canterburye's special Direction, sometime they do.

3ly, That they do sometime imprison close, upon great Occasions. That petty Commissioners never do it, but great Persons. -

That he did nothing by any Man's Direction, or Persuasion, about the Commitment or Excommunication of Sir Ro. Howard.

Being demanded, what he meant by the Words, " That he came, not to serve Turns;" he said, he came not to serve any: And demanded, who else did ; saith, he knoweth not; but the Assembly was extraordinary.

Being demanded, whether the Commission warrant Close Imprisonment; he answereth, it warranteth Imprisonment ; but whether, or not, remembereth not.

Upon Question, Resolved, To defer the further Consideration hereof till Tuesday next ; and against that Time, the rest to be warned, and then heard.