House of Commons Journal Volume 6: 10 October 1648

Die Martis, 10 Octobris, 1648.

Prayers.

Harley's Claims.

AN Ordinance for allowing to Sir Robert Harley the Sum of Eight hundred and Twenty Pounds, upon his Account, for the Profits of his Office of Master of the Mint, he having disbursed so much for the Service of the Parliament, in the Months of September and August 1643, was this Day read; and, upon the Question, passed; and ordered to be sent unto the Lords for their Concurrence.

Coloniel Massie is appointed to carry it to the Lords.

Ld. Goring, &c.

A Letter to be sent to his Excellency, touching his Explanation of a Clause in a Letter of his, of 29 Augusti 1648, touching Quarter granted by his Excellency to the Lord Goreing, Lord Capell, and others, was this Day read; and the Preamble, upon the Question, first assented unto; and then the Letter, upon the Question, was assented unto; and is ordered to be signed by Mr. Speaker, and to be sent to the General, together with Copies of the General's Letter, of the Twenty-ninth of August, and of the Lord Goring's of 3 Octobris 1648.

Ld. Lauderdaile's Goods.

Mr. Lisle reports the State of the Case concerning the Proceedings before the Committee at Haberdashers Hall, touching the Sequestring, Seizing, and Sale of the Lord Lauderdaile's Goods; viz.

That, by virtue of an Ordinance of Parliament, the Committee of Lords and Commons, at Haberdashers Hall, having Information of several Goods belonging unto the Earl of Lauderdaile, a Delinquent, in Aldersgatestreete, Sept. 20, 1648, appointed several of their Officers to seize and inventory the said Goods, until further Order of the Committee.

After the Seizure, one Mr. English pretended Right to the Goods, by virtue of a Deed from the Lord Lauderdaile, dated in January last; whereby he conveyed those Goods to him upon several Trusts therein mentioned: Which the Committee adjudged fraudulent.

After this the Lady Lauderdaile's Daughter petitioned the Lords, That the Lady Hume, by her Will, gave the Goods in Question, after the Decease of the Lady Lauderdaile, to this young Lady: The Lords order Stop of Proceedings, till the Lady's Title were heard by the Committee, Upon hearing thereof, the Committee adjudged the Lady had no Interest in those Goods; and ordered the Sale of those Goods, according to the Ordinance of Sequestrations. That Day the Committee at Campden House place a Guard of Musqueteers upon the Goods, and would not suffer our Officers to proceed.

The House of Commons, being acquainted herewith, did, by Order of the Thirtieth of September, appoint the Militia of London to take off the Guards, and to examine by whom the Guards were set; and the Committee of Lords and Commons, at Haberdashers Hall, to proceed in the Sequestring, and to dispose of the Goods. Tuesday after, being 3 Octobris instant, the Goods were sold, by the Candle, for Six hundred and One Pounds, Two Days after, a Petition is presented to the Lords, in the Name of several Creditors of the Lord Lauderdaile's; viz. the said English, and others; desiring Satisfaction for Debts out of those Goods. The Lords make an Order, That the Goods should not be sold, or removed, till both Houses had determined, Who had Right to the Goods. By Pretence of this Order, the Lady Lauderdaile, and her Servants, keep the Possession of these Goods by Force, and will not suffer the Officers to remove or dispose of the same: And, since, the Lady, by her Counsel Mr. Heron, moved for a Fifth Part of the Goods; whereby the Person who bought the same at the Candle cannot enjoy his Bargain; to the great Damage of the State, and Obstruction in the Business of Sequestration.

Resolved, &c. That this House doth adhere to their former Order, for the Sale and Dispose of the Lord Lauderdaile's Goods.

Ordered, That the Committee of the Militia of the City of London do take care, that the Order of the Committee of Lords and Commons, at Haberdashers Hall, for Sale of the Lord Lauderdaile's Goods, be put in due Execution: And that the said Goods be put into the Hands and Possession of the Person or Persons to whom they were sold, by Order of the said Committee, at Haberdashers Hall.

Resolved, &c. That a Conference be desired with the Lords, for Preventing of Obstructions by intervening Orders of the Lords, obstructing the Sequestring, Sale, and Dispose, of Delinquents Goods.

Leave of Absence.

Ordered, That Colonel Wm. Sydenham shall have Leave to go into the Country.

Ordered, That Mr. Burrell, a Member of this House, shall have Leave, and be injoined, to go into the Country, upon the Service of the Parliament.

Sir H. Holcroft.

Ordered, That, To-morrow Morning, Mr. Henry Pelham do make his Report concerning Sir Henry Holcroft.

Tythes.

Resolved, &c. That Mr. Lane do prepare and bring in an Ordinance for continuing the additional Ordinance for the Payment of Tythes, for Twelve Months longer.

Morgan's, &c. Petition.

The humble Petition of Colonel Morgan and Major Isaac Dobson was read.

Message from Lords.

A Message from the Lords, by Mr. Page and Dr. Aylett:

The Lords have commanded us to return unto you an Ordinance for Provision of Coals, for Relief of the Poor of the City of London, and Borough of Southwarke; Which the Lords do agree to, with one Alteration: In which they desire the Concurrence of this House: An Ordinance for Mr. Roger Charnocke to have the Place or Office of Head Searcher in the Port of Poole, and Members thereof; in which they desire the Concurrence of this House: An Order for Richard Chamberleyne Esquire, late Register of the Court of Wards and Liveries, to have a Pass to come from Oxford to London, and to reside here for Six Months, and to return again; in which they desire the Concurrence of this House: A Petition of Colonel William Dodson, with the Lords Vote thereupon; in which they desire the Concurrence of this House.

Coals for City Poor.

The Amendment to the Ordinance for Coals for the Poor of the City of London was read; and was, that the One thousand Pounds for Coals, for the Poor of the City of London, should be raised out of the First Thousand Pounds.

Resolved, &c. That this House doth adhere to the Ordinance concerning Coals, for the Poor of the City of London, as it went from hence.

Col. Dodson.

The Petition of Colonel William Dodson, with the Ordinance annexed, was read.

Resolved, &c. That the Petition of Colonel William Dodson be referred and re-committed to the Committee for the Eastern Association, to consider of some fit Way for satisfying the just Desires of the said Colonel Wm. Dodson; and to report it to the House with all convenient Speed.

Harley's Claims.

Colonel Massie carried to the Lords, for their Concurrence, the Ordinance for satisfying to Sir Robert Harley the Sum of Eight hundred and Twenty Pounds, disbursed by him for the Service of the Parliament: The Ordinance concerning the reduced Officers of Yorkeshire.

Answers to Lords.

Resolved, &c. That the Answer to the Ordinance for Mr. Roger Charnocke to have the Place of Head Searcher in the Port of Poole, and Members, shall be, That the House will send Answer by Messengers of their own.

Resolved, &c. That the Answer to the Order for Richard Chamberleyne Esquire to come to London, shall be, That the House will send Answer by Messengers of their own.

Answer returned by the same Messengers; That this House has considered their Lordships Message, in every Particular of it; and will send Answer by Messengers of their own.

Leave of Absence.

Resolved, &c. That Mr. Humphry Edwards, a Member of this House, shall have Leave to go into the Country.

Payton's Composition.

Resolved, &c. That Sir Thomas Payton, a Prisoner in Windsore Castle, shall have Liberty, upon Bail, to be taken by the Governor of Windsore Castle, to prosecute his Composition with the Committee of Kent, for the Space of Fourteen Days: And, if he shall complete and perfect his Composition within the said Time of Fourteen Days, that then his Bail be discharged; otherwise that the said Sir Thomas Peyton return a Prisoner, and stand committed to the Castle of Windsore.

Newcastle Petition.

Mr. Holland informing the House, that he had, in a Letter to himself, received a Petition to this House from the Town of Newcastle upon Tyne; he did present the same.

The which was read; and was intituled, The humble Petition of the Mayor, Aldermen, Sheriffs, Common Councilmen, and others, well-affected, of the Town of Newcastle upon Tyne.

Yorke Petition.

The Petition of the Gentlemen, Ministers, Freeholders, and other Inhabitants of the County and City of Yorke, well-affected to the Safety of the Kingdom, and the Honour of the Parliament, was this Day read.

Taunton Presentment.

Mr. Serjeant Wilde did present to the House the Presentment of the Grand Inquest at the Assizes held at Taunton, for the County of Sommersett, on Friday the Two-and-twentieth of September 1648, before himself, being one of the Justices of Assize for the said County, to be presented to the House of Commons, in Parliament assembled.

The which was read.

Harley's Claims.

Colonel Massie brings Answer, That the Lords do agree to the Ordinance for satisfying a Debt of Eight hundred and Twenty Pounds to Sir Robert Harley; To the Ordinance for the reduced Officers of Yorksheire.

Thanks to Serj. Wilde.

Resolved, &c. That the Thanks of this House be given to Mr. Serjeant Wilde, for his great and good Service done by him to the Parliament, in the late Circuit he rode as one of the Justices of Assize.

Mr. Speaker did accordingly give him the Thanks of this House.