House of Commons Journal Volume 1: 08 December 1606 (2nd scribe)

Lunae, 8o Die Decembris, 1606

Marshalsea Court.

1. Reading: - B. For Reformation of Abuses in the Court of Marshalsea, and for the Limitation of the same.

Drunkenness.

B. For repressing the odious and loathsome Sin of Drunkenness, committed to Sir Rob. Johnson, Sir John Heigham, Sir Geo. Moore, Sir Gam. Capell, Sir John Hollice, Mr. D. James, Mr. Lieutenant, Sir Fr. Barrington, Sir Edw. Montague, Sir Rob. Wingfield, Sir Roland Litton, Mr. Fuller, Sir Tho. Lowe, Burgesses of Darby, Sir Tho. Bishop, Mr. Duncombe, Mr. Chock, Mr. Alford, Sir Wm. Liggon, Mr. Forcett, Mr. Martin, Mr. Hyde, Sir Nath. Bacon, Sir Fr. Knollys, Sir Jerome Bowes; - Wednesday, Temple Hall.

Apology for a Member's Speech.

Sir Roger Wilbraham maketh an Apology for the Speech, used by Southwick, the Burgess of Carlisle, touching the Sheep confiscated in Scotland. -

His Meaning, in the Restriction, was, that the People of either Country might see the Necessity of the Trade and Commerce between the Two Countries. -

The King said, he would be loth to live to see the King of England do Wrong to the King of Scotland.

Buildings.

2. Reading: - B. To reform the Multitudes of unnecessary and inconvenient Buildings, in or near the City of London, &c.

Mr. Recorder: - Within Two Years, 2,000 Tenements : Of Ten Houses, 1,500 Dwellings: 60 born aforetime, now 120 or 40.

Sir Geo. Moore: - No Time appointed for Under-setters.

Committed - Mr. Recorder, Sir Geo. Moore, Sir John Hollice, Sir Tho. Lowe, Sir Walter Cope, Mr. Forcett, Sir Jerome Bowes, Mr. Lieutenant, Sir Rob. Johnson, Sir Tho. Lake, Sir John Swynnerton, Sir Edw. Hext, Sir Edm. Bowyer, Sir Herbert Crofts, Sir Tho. Smyth, Mr. Solicitor, Mr. Martin, Sir John Heigham, Mr. Alford, Sir Fr. Barrington, Sir Henry Poole, Sir Barnard Whytson, Mr. Tate, Sir John Bennett, Sir Roland Litton, Sir Fr. Goodwyn, Sir Nath. Bacon, Sir Wm. Fleetewood: Wednesday, Temple Hall.

Union with Scotland - Shipping.

Mr. Martin reporteth the Proceeding of the Committee on Saturday.

If you do communicate indifferently, you shall disable his Majesty's Service at Sea: You shall lessen the Numbers of Soldiers. -

Her Majesty might have raised a great Number of Mariners. -

His Majesty cannot, from the Scottish Mariners, by reason of the Distance. -

Many of her Ships lay at Burdeaux: Could not be fraughted for 15s. which afore was worth 30. -

Not our smaller Shipping. - The Cheapness of the Mariners, the Poorness of Provision : Every Mariner a Merchant. -

They use Oysters, and other Shell-fish; we, Beef. Their Advantage such as they will eat us up. -

The Shipping could not be made equal: The Harbours cannot be made capable of such Ships. In Storms, or in Winter, they cannot harbour. They may make Road at some Seasons. -

The Shipwrights Reason. -

If, for Necessity, we should fit our Vessels to theirs, we should, by Disuse, not be able to make better, when Time should serve. -

Injuries from Spanyards.

Mr. Aldrich and Mr. Hall deliver divers Injuries by the Spanyard. Mr. Martin hath a Paper.

Tyrannies by the Spanyard. -

Shipping.

The Matter, of Collection of the Statutes for Shipping, moved, deferred till

To-morrow in the Afternoon.