House of Lords Journal Volume 2: 28 May 1614

Pages 708-709

Journal of the House of Lords: Volume 2, 1578-1614. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1767-1830.

Citation:

DIE Sabbati, videlicet, 28 Maii:



p. Archiepus. Cant. p. Archiepus. Ebor. p. Epus. London. p. Epus. Dunelm. p. Epus. Winton. Epus. Meneven. Epus. Carliol. p. Epus. Exon. Epus. Sarum. Epus. Bangor. p. Epus. Peterburgh. p. Epus. Landaven. Epus. Hereford. Epus. Norwicen. p. Epus. Bristoll. p. Epus. Oxon. p. Epus. Assaphen. p. Epus. Cestren. p. Epus. Elien. p. Epus. Lincoln. Epus. Wigorn. p. Epus. Glocestren. p. Epus. Bathon. et Wellen. p. Epus. Rossen. Epus. Cicestren. p. Epus. Coven. et Lichfeild.	p. Ds. Ellesmere, Cancellar. Angliæ. Comes North'ton, Ds. Custos Privati Sigilli. Marchio Winton. Comes Oxon. Magnus Camerar. p. Comes Nottingham, Mag. Admirall. et Senescall. p. Comes Suffolke, Camerar. Hospitii. Comes Arundell. p. Comes Salop. Comes Kancie. p. Comes Derby. p. Comes Wigorn. p. Comes Rutland. p. Comes Cumbrie. Comes Sussex. p. Comes Huntingdon. Comes Bathon. p. Comes South'ton. Comes Bedford. p. Comes Pembroke. p. Comes Hertford. p. Comes Essex. Comes Lincoln. p. Comes Dorsett. Comes Sarum. Comes Exon. p. Comes Mountgomery. p. Comes Richmond. p. Comes Somersett. Vicecomes Mountagu. p. Vicecomes Lisle. p. Ds. Bergavenny. Ds. Audeley. p. Ds. Zouch. p. Ds. Willughby de Eresby. p. Ds. Lawarr. p. Ds. Dacre. Ds. Berkley. Ds. Morley. Ds. Clinton. p. Ds. Stafford. p. Ds. Scroope. Ds. Dudley. Ds. Stourton. Ds. Herbert. p. Ds. Darcy et Menell. p. Ds. Mountegle. Ds. Sandys. p. Ds. Windsor. Ds. Wentworth. p. Ds. Evre. Ds. Wharton. p. Ds. Riche. p. Ds. Willughby de Parham. Ds. Sheffeild. p. Ds. Pagett. Ds. Darcy de Chich. Ds. Howard de Effingham. p. Ds. North. p. Ds. Chandos. p. Ds. Hunsdon. p. Ds. St. John. p. Ds. Compton. Ds. Norris. p. Ds. Howard de Walden. p. Ds. Knollys. p. Ds. Wotton. p. Ds. Russell. Ds. Gray de Groby. p. Ds. Peter. Ds. Danvers. Ds. Gerard. p. Ds. Spencer. p. Ds. Saie. Ds. Denny. p. Ds. Stanhope. p. Ds. Carewe. Ds. Arundell. p. Ds. Cavendish. p. Ds. Knyvett. Ds. Clifton.

De Caron's Naturalization.

HODIE 2^a vice lecta est Billa, An Act for the Naturalizing of Phillipp de Caron; to be engrossed.

For Ease of the Subject in assigning Debts to the Crown.

Hodie 2^a vice lecta est Billa, An Act against the Vexation of His Majesty's Subjects, by the assigning of Debts to the Crown.

Message from the H. C. complaining of the Bishop of Lincoln's Speech against the Conference lately requested.

Message from the Lower House, by Sir Edward Hobby and others:

Conference lately requested.

That, at such Time as the Knights, Citizens, and Burgesses of the Commons House of Parliament, sent up to the Lords a Message, praying Conference with their Lordships about Impositions, they hoped that, neitheir out of the Words nor Matter of the Message, it had been possible for any Man to have framed any sinister or unworthy Construction; that, notwithstanding, by public and constant Fame they had heard, to their Hearts Grief, that one in this Place, and within these Walls, namely, the Lord Bishop of Lincolne, to dissuade the Lords from Conference so desired as aforesaid, did use Words to the Effect following, or worse: videlicet, That the Matter, whereof Conference was by that House desired, is a Noli me tangere; inferring also, that the taking of the Oaths of Allegiance and (fn. 1) Supremacy is an Impediment, so as who so had taken the same Oaths might not safely enter into Conference of the said Matter; affirming further, that it did strike not at a Branch but at the Root of the Prerogative and Imperial Crown; and that he doubted left, in such Conference as was desired, there would, from some of the Committees of that House, proceed some undutiful and seditious Speeches, unfit for their Lordships to hear, tending to a dangerous Rent and Distraction of both Houses, and to make an Alienation between the King and His Subjects; that of this Scandal that House is so sensible, that they have sent these Messengers, to signify their Grief; and that they hold the Lords so honourable that they cannot but also take Notice thereof; wherefore that House did desire, that their Lordships will join with them in some Course to give them Satisfaction for so great a Wrong done unto that House, which they have taken so to Heart, that they have determined to forbear all Proceedings in any Parliament Matter, until they may receive Answer from the Lords, wherein they doubt not but their Lordships will deal nobly with them, and they desire (fn. 1) it may be speedily.

The said Edward Hobby being by the Lord Chancellor demanded, whether he had in Writing the Message so as aforesaid by him delivered, answered negatively.

Answer.

Answer:

That the Lords have taken Knowledge of the Message, and will take the same into further Consideration, as the Weight thereof requireth, wherein they will have Respect both to their Honour and Honour of that House, and will send them Answer by Messengers of their own, as soon as conveniently they may.

Memorandum, That, before the Answer above specified was agreed on, the Serjeant of the Lower House came unto the Gentleman Usher of this Court, to understand whether the Lords would this Day send Answer of the Message abovesaid; whereunto the Gentleman Usher, with the Privity of their Lordships; answered, as of and from himself, That he knew not.

Adjourn.

Dominus Cancellarius continuavit præsens Parliamentum usque in diem Lunæ, videlicet, 30^m Maii, hora 9^a.