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House of Lords Journal Volume 2: 21 November 1601

Pages 234-235

Journal of the House of Lords: Volume 2, 1578-1614. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1767-1830.

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DIE Sabbati, videlicet, 21 mensis Novembris:

p. Archiepus. Cantuar.
Archiepus. Eborum.
p. Epus. London.
p. Epus. Dunelme.
p. Epus. Winton.
p. Epus. Roffen.
p. Epus. Lincolne.
Epus. Coven. et Lichf.
Epus. Hereford.
p. Epus. Wigorn.
p. Epus. Bathon. et Wellen.
p. Epus. Meneven.
Epus. Norwicen.
p. Epus. Assaphen.
Epus. Cestren.
p. Epus. Cicestren.
p. Epus. Carlioll.
Epus. Glocestren.
p. Epus. Exon.
p. Epus. Sarum.
p. Epus. Bangor.
p. Epus. Elien.
p. Epus. Peterburg.		 p. Thomas Egerton, Miles, Ds. Custos Magni Sigilli.
p. Ds. Buckhurst, Ds. Thesaurarius Angliæ.
Marchio Winton.
Comes Oxon. Mag. Camerarius.
Comes Sussex, Mag. Marescallus.
Comes Notingham, Admirallus et Senescallus.
p. Comes Northumbriæ.
Comes Salopp.
p. Comes Derbie.
Comes Kancie.
p. Comes Wigorn.
Comes Rutland.
Comes Cumberland.
Comes Huntingdon.
Comes Bathon.
Comes Bedford.
Comes Pembrooke.
Comes Hartford.
p. Comes Lincolne.
Vicecomes Montague.
Vicecomes Bindon.
Ds. Hunsdon, Camerarius.
Ds. Audeley.
p. Ds. Zouche.
Ds. Lawarr.
Ds. Berkley.
Ds. Morley.
p. Ds. Cobham.
Ds. Stafford.
p. Ds. Grey de Wilton.
Ds. Scroope.
p. Ds. Dudley.
Ds. Lumley.
p. Ds. Stourton.
Ds. Montioye.
Ds. Darcie de Menell.
Ds. Sandes.
p. Ds. Windsor.
Ds. Mordaunt.
Ds. Crumwell.
Ds. Evre.
p. Ds. Wharton.
Ds. Riche.
p. Ds. Willoughbie de Parham.
p. Ds. Sheffield.
p. Ds. Darcie de Chiche.
p. Ds. Chandois.
p. Ds. St. John de Bletso.
Ds. Burghley.
Ds. Compton.
p. Ds. Norreys.
p. Ds. Howard de Walden.

Misdemeanors.

HODIE 1a vice lecta est Billa, An Act to avoid and prevent divers Misdemeanours in lewd and idle Persons.

Grants and Letters Patent.

Hodie 1a vice lecta est Billa, An Act for Confirmation of Grants made to the Queen's Majesty, and of Letters Patents made by Her Highness to others.

Assurance of Lands. Rejected.

Hodie 3a vice lecta est Billa, An Act for Assurance of Lands.

The Voices being equal, the Negative prevailed.

Upon the Third Reading of this Bill, sundry Objections were made against some Points of the same, by the Lord Bishop of London, and divers others of the Lords; in so much that the House was divided in Opinion, whether it should be put to the Question for the passing thereof or no: Many of the Lords affecting well the said Bill, and wishing that any Defect therein might be rather reformed, than by this Question to put it to the Hazard of being rejected; by which Occasion it was thought more meet first to propound another Question, videlicet, Whether the said Bill, having been referred to Committees at the Second Reading, and by them returned with some Amendments, and thereupon appointed to be ingrossed, might now, after the ingrossing thereof, and Third Reading, be again committed or no; which being accordingly put to the Question, and the Number both of the Affirmative Part and Negative falling out to be equal (upon the accompting of them by the Lord Bishop of London, and the Lord Gray, appointed by the Lords for that Purpose), it was judged, that the Voices of the Negative Part (which were aagainst the new committing of the Bill) should prevail; following therein the usual Rule in Law (whereof the Lord Keeper made Mention), That where the Number of the Affirmative and Negative are equal, "semper præsumitur pro Negante;" and, after that, the Bill itself, being put to the Question, Whether it should pass or no, was by the major Part denied and refused.

Excuses made for the Absence of these Lords, by reason of Sickness, or upon other reasonable Occasions.

L. Marquis,
E. of Notingham,
E. of Hartford,
E. of Cumberland,
L. Scroope,
L. Riche,
L. Mordaunt,
L. Bp. of Coven,etc.
L. Bp. of Chester,		 Signified by some of their Servants to the Lord Keeper.


By the Lord Wharton.

By the Lord Zowche.
By the Lord Stourton.
By the Bp. of Meneven.
By the Bp. of Bangor.

A Motion made by the Lord Keeper, and approved by the Lords, That the ancient Course of the House might be hereafter observed, in certifying the Excuses of such Lords as should be absent from the House upon reasonable Occasion, which ought to be done by one of their Peers, and not by other Information.

Crompton, Best, &c.

This Day, Thomas Crompton, Henry Best, and Frauncis Jackson, made their Appearances in the House; and being demanded, Whether the Bill concerning Eye and Dunsden might lawfully pass, without their Prejudice; they answered, that it might so do, and that they could take no Exception against it.

Ld. Norris's Writ of Summons.

Hodie introductum fuit Breve Francisci Domini Norreys, qui præsenti Parliamento interesse summonebatur, et admissus est ad suum Præeminentiæ sedendi in Parliamento locum, salvo jure alieno.

Adjourn.

Dominus Custos Magni Sigilli continuavit præsens Parliamentum usque ad diem Lunæ, videlicet, 23m diem instantis Novembris, hora nona.