Journal, September 1730: Journal Book G.G

Journal, September 1730

September 1. Present:—Mr. Pelham, Mr. Bladen, Mr. Brudenell.

South Carolina.

Letter from the Duke of Newcastle.

Indian chiefs.

A letter from the Duke of Newcastle, dated the 31st, in answer to one from this Board of the 20th of the last month, signifying His Majesty's having approved of their making some treaty or agreement with the Indian chiefs of the Cherikee nation, who lately came from Carolina, and directing the Board to make such agreement, and in such manner with the said Indian chiefs, as they should think for His Majesty's service, was read; whereupon ordered that Colonel Johnson, Governor of South Carolina, and Sir William Keith be desired to attend the Board on Monday morning next, as likewise the said Indians and their interpreter.

Ordered that the Secretary do apply to the Secretary at War's office, that two sergeants with twelve grenadiers may attend at the same time upon the said Indians.

Form agreed.

Their Lordships then agreed the form of a treaty with the said Indians.

New England.

Colonel Dunbar, settlements.

Capt. Marwood attending, as he had been directed, their Lordships desired he would give the Board some account of the settlements made by Colonel Dunbar, or by other persons claiming land to the eastward of Kennebeck in New England; upon which he acquainted the Board, that his son-in-law, who was on board his ship at Portsmouth, could give the Board a distinct account of this matter, having passed a winter on shore there, and that he would engage his son to send the said account in writing.

September 2. Present:—Mr. Pelham, Mr. Bladen, Mr. Brudenell.

Pennsylvania.

Mr. Browne's complaint against Major Gordon.

Letter to Major Gordon.

The draught of a report to the Lords of the Committee upon the complaints of Mr. Browne, Judge of the Vice Court of Admiralty of Pennsylvania, against Major Gordon, Deputy Governor of the province, mentioned in the Minutes of the 13th of the last month, was agreed, as also the draught of a letter to the said Major Gordon.

Connecticut.

Act, Intestates' estates.

Their Lordships taking again into consideration the Order of the Committee of Council upon the petition of Jonathan Belcher and Jeremiah Dummer, Esqrs., agents for the colony of Connecticut, in relation to an Act passed there for the settlement of intestates' estates, mentioned in the Minutes of the 21st of April last, as also a report from Mr. Attorney and Solicitor General in relation to the power given to the colony of Connecticut of making laws by virtue of their charter, read the 13th of the last month, resolved to take this matter into further consideration at another opportunity.

Nova Scotia.

New England.

New Settlement.

New York.

Mr. Bradley, Attorney General.

Nova Scotia.

Letters from Col. Phillips, having a vessel.

With papers.

A letter from the Duke of Newcastle, dated the 7th of March, 1729–30, referring to the Board two letters from Col. Dunbar, Surveyor General to His Majesty's Woods in America, relating to the new settlement between Nova Scotia and New England, the extract of one from Mr. Dummer, Lieut. Governor of New England, upon the same subject; the copy of a letter from Mr. Bradley, Attorney General of New York, with a memorial from the Governor and Council there in his behalf, and a representation, upon the irregular proceedings of the Assembly. The copy of a letter from Colonel Phillips, Governor of Nova Scotia, relating to the giving new grants of land to the inhabitants, to the proposal for settling French protestants, and to the necessity of having a vessel kept constantly there, was read, and the following papers were laid before the Board, viz:—
With papers.
Copy of a letter from Col. Dunbar to the Duke of Newcastle, dated the 10th, December, 1729.
Copy of Col. Dunbar's letter to the Duke of Newcastle, dated the 30th December, 1729.
Copy of a letter from the chief of the Indians of Penobscot to Col. Dunbar, dated the 30th of December, 1729.
Copy of Mr. John Gyles' letter to Colonel Dunbar, dated the 14th of November, 1729.
Copy of a letter from Capt. Gyles to Col. Dunbar, dated the 14th of November, 1729.
Extract of Lieut. Governor Dummer's letter to the Duke of Newcastle, dated 26th December, 1729.
Copy of a letter from Lieut. Gov. Dummer to Col. Dunbar, dated the 3rd December, 1729.
Copy of a letter from Col. Dunbar to Lieut. Gov. Dummer, dated the 4th of December, 1729.
Copy of a letter from Lieut. Gov. Dummer to Col. Dunbar, dated the 6th of December, 1729.
Extract of a letter from Col. Dunbar to Lieut. Gov. Dummer, dated 8th December, 1729.
New York.
Mr. Bradley.
Attorney General.
Copy of a letter from Mr. Bradley, Attorney Gen. of New York in America, to the Duke of Newcastle, dated the 22nd of November, 1729.
Memorial of the Attorney General at New York to the Governor and Council there.
Representation of the Attorney General of New York to the Board of Trade.
Memorial of the Governor and Council of New York to the Board of Trade, in behalf of the Attorney General of that Province.
Votes of the Assembly of New York, with the Attorney General's answer to the reflexions therein.
Nova Scotia.
Papers.
Copy of a letter from Governor Phillips to the Duke of Newcastle, dated 25th of November, 1729.
Copy of the French Minister's proposals for settling a colony in Nova Scotia.
Copy of a letter from Major Cope to M. Le Mercier, Minister of the French Church at Boston in New England, dated 25th of November, 1729.
Copy of the address of the inhabitants of Canso to Governor Phillips. N.B. (repeated in text).

New York.

Mr. Bradley, papers to be abstracted.

Ordered that an abstract of such of the said papers as relate to Mr. Bradley be abstracted.

September 7. Present:—Mr. Pelham, Mr. Bladen, Mr. Brudenell.

South Carolina.

Indians attend.

The seven Indian chiefs of the Cherikee nation attending, as they had been desired, with their interpreter, Col. Johnson of South Carolina, Sir William Keith, and several other gentlemen, their Lordships explained to them by their interpreter (who was sworn) the form of a treaty with them agreed at the last meeting, in the words following:—

Treaty.

"Whereas you Scayagusta Oukah, chief of the town of Tassetsa, you Scalilasken Ketagusta, you Tethtowe, you Clogoittah, you Colannah, you Unnaconoy, you Oucounacou, have been deputed by the whole nation of the Cherikee Indians, to come to Great Britain, where you have seen the great King George, and in token of your obedience have laid the Crown of your nation, with the scalps of your enemies and feathers of peace, at His Majesty's feet. Now the King of Great Britain bearing love in his heart to the powerful and great nation of the Cherikee Indians, his good friends and allies, His Majesty has empowered us to treat with you here, and accordingly, we now speak to you "as if the whole nation of the Cherikees, their old men, young men, wives and children were all present. And you are to understand the words we speak as the words of the Great King, our master, whom you have seen, and we shall understand the words you speak to us, as the words of all your people with open and true hearts to the Great King. And thereupon we give four pieces of striped duffles."

"Hear then the words of the Great King, whom you have seen and who has commanded us to tell you:"

"That the English everywhere on all sides of the great mountains and lakes are his people and his children, whom he loves, that their friends are his friends, and their enemies are his enemies, that he takes it kindly, that the great nation of Cherikees have sent you hither a great way to brighten the chain of friendship between him and them, and between his people and your people, that the chain of friendship between him and the Cherikee Indians is like the sun, which both shines here and also upon the great mountains where they live, and equally warms the hearts of the Indians and of the English, that as there are no spots or blackness in the sun, so is there not any rust or foulness in this chain, and as the Great King has fastened one end of it to his own breast, he desires you will carry the other end of the chain and fasten it well to the breast of your nation, and to the breasts of your old wise men, your captains and all your people, never more to be broken or made loose. And hereupon we give four pieces of white cloth to be dyed blue."

"The Great King and the Cherikee Indians being thus fastened together by the chain of friendship, he has ordered his people and children, the English in Carolina, to trade with the Indians, and to furnish them with all manner of goods that they want, and to make haste to build houses, and to plant corn, from Charlestown towards the town of the Cherikees, behind the great mountains, for he desires that the Indians and the English may live together as the children of one family, whereof the Great King is a kind and loving father. And as the King has given his land on both sides of the great mountains to his own children the English, so he now gives to the Cherikee Indians the priviledge of living where they please, and he has ordered his Governor to forbid the English from building houses or planting corn near any Indian town, for fear that your young people should kill the cattle and young lambs, and so quarrel with the English and hurt them. And hereupon we give two other pieces of white cloth to be dyed red.

"The great nation of Cherikees being now the children of the Great King of Great Britain, and he their father, the Cherikees must treat the English as brethren of the same family, and must be always ready at the Governor's command, to fight against any nation, whether they be white men or Indians, who shall dare to molest or hurt the English and hereupon we give twenty guns.

"The nation of the Cherikees shall on their part take care to keep the trading path clean, and that there be no blood in the path where the English white men tread, even though they should be accompanied by any other people, with whom the Cherikees are at war. Whereupon we give four hundred pounds weight of gunpowder.

"That the Cherikees shall not suffer their people to trade with the white men of any other nation but the English, nor permit white men of any other nation to build any forts, cabins or plant corn amongst them or near to any of the Indian towns, or upon the lands which belong to the Great King, and if any such attempt shall be made, you must acquaint the English Governor therewith, and do whatever he directs in order to maintain and defend the Great King's right to the country of Carolina. Whereupon we give five hundred pounds weight of swan shot and five hundred pounds weight of bullets.

"That if any negro slave shall run away into the woods from their English masters the Cherikee Indians shall endeavour to apprehend them, and either bring them back to the plantation from whence they run away or to the Governor, and for every negro so apprehended and brought back, the Indian, who brings him, shall receive a gun and a match coat. Whereupon we give a box of vermillion, ten thousand gun flints and six dozen of hatchets.

"That if by any accidental misfortune it should happen that an Englishman should kill an Indian, the King or Great Man of the Cherikees shall first complain to the English Governor, and the man who did it shall be punished by the English laws, as if he had killed an Englishman, and in like manner if an Indian kills an Englishman, the Indian who did it shall be delivered up to the Governor, and be punished by the same English law, as if he was an Englishman. Whereupon we give twelve dozen of spring knives, four dozen of brass kettles and ten dozen of belts.

"You are to understand all that we have now said to be the words of the Great King, whom you have seen, and as a token that his heart is open and true to his children and friends the Cherikees, and to all their people, he gives his hand in this belt, which he desires may be kept and shewn to all your people, and to their children and children's children, to confirm what is now spoken, and to bind this treaty of peace and friendship betwixt the English and the Cherikees, as long as the mountains and rivers shall last or the sun shine. Whereupon we give the belt of wampum."

And their Lordships desired they would give their answers thereto on Wednesday morning next.

Indians will answer the Treaty.

Their Lordships then shewed them the samples of the above mentioned presents, and the chief of the Indians said to the Board by his interpreter, that they had not come hither as enemies, but as friends; that although they did not expect to see the King, yet they had seen him, and that they would give their answer to the said treaty on Wednesday morning next.

Pennsylvania.

Mr. Brown, Judge of the Admiralty.

The report to the Lords of the Committee, upon the complaints of Mr. Browne, Judge of the Vice Court of Admiralty of Pennsylvania, against Major Gordon, Deputy Governor of that province, agreed the 2nd inst., was signed.

Barbadoes.

Dominica.

Report, title, signed.

The report upon the King's title to the island of Dominica, mentioned in the Minutes of the 27th of the last month, was signed.

September 8. Present:—Mr. Docminique, Mr. Bladen, Mr. Brudenell.

Bahamas.

Report, value of the Islands, signed.

The report, upon the Order of the Committee of Council, directing the Board to consider the value of the lands of the Bahama Islands, and what sum may be proper to be given for them, etc., directed to be prepared the 27th of the last month, was agreed and signed.

Miscellanies.

Letter to Mr. Arnold.

Grenadiers to attend.

Ordered that a letter be wrote to Mr. Arnold, of the War Office, to desire two sergeants and twelve grenadiers may attend here to-morrow morning upon the Indian chiefs.

Letter to the Treasury, repairs.

A letter to the Treasury, desiring the Board of Works may have directions to make such repairs as shall be wanting in this office, was agreed and signed.

New York.

Mr. Bradley, Attorney General.

Representation ordered.

Their Lordships, taking again into consideration the letter from the Duke of Newcastle, referring to this Board, among others, several papers relating to Mr. Bradley, Attorney General of New York, mentioned in the Minutes of the 2nd inst., gave directions for preparing a representation upon the said papers from Mr. Bradley, thereby referred to the Board.

Pennsylvania.

Letter to Mr. Gordon.

The draught of a letter to Mr. Gordon, Deputy Governor of Pennsylvania, directed to be prepared the 2nd inst., was agreed and ordered to be transcribed.

September 9. Present:—Mr. Docminique, Mr. Bladen, Mr. Brudenell.

South Carolina.

Indians attend and agree to the treaty.

The seven Indian chiefs of the Cherikee nation attending, as they had been desired, with their interpreter, as likewise Colonel Johnson and Sir William Keith, their Lordships told them, that they were ready to hear what the said Indian chiefs had to say, in answer to the propositions made to them in behalf of His Majesty on Monday last.

Whereupon Scalilasken Ketagusta being directed by Scayagusta Oukah, and the rest of the said Indians, to speak in their behalf, delivered himself in the following terms:—

"We are come hither from a dark mountainous place, where nothing but darkness is to be found, but are now in a place where there is light. There was a person in our country with us, he gave us a yellow token of warlike honour, that is left with Moyitohoy of Tellegua, and as warriors we received it. He came to us like a warrior from you, a man he was, his talk was upright, and the token he left preserves his memory amongst us.

We look upon you, as if the Great King George was present, and we love you as representing the Great King, and shall die in the same way of thinking.

The Crown of our nation is different from that which the Great King George wears, and from that which we saw in the Tower, but to us it is all one, and the chain of friendship shall be carried to our people.

We look upon the Great King George as the sun, and as our father, and upon ourselves as his children; for though we are red and you white, yet our hands and hearts are joined together.

When we shall have acquainted our people with what we have seen, our children from generation to generation will always remember it.

In war, we shall always be as one with you; the Great King George's enemies shall be our enemies, his people and ours shall be always one, and die together.

We came here naked and poor as the worm out of the earth, but you have everything, and we that have nothing must love you, and can never break the chain of friendship that is between us.

Here stands the Governor of Carolina, whom we know, this small rope which we shew you is all we have to bind our slaves with, and may be broken, but you have iron chains for yours; however, if we catch your slaves we shall bind them as well as we can, and deliver them to our friends again, and have no pay for it.

We have looked round for the person that was in our country, he is not here; however, we must say that he talked uprightly to us, and we shall never forget him.

Your white people may very safely build houses near us, we shall hurt nothing that belongs to them, for we are the children of one father, the Great King, and we shall live and die together."

Then laying down his feathers upon the table, he added: "this is our way of talking, which is the same to us, as your letters in the book are to you; and to you, beloved men, we deliver these feathers in confirmation of all we have said, and of our agreement to your articles."

After which their Lordships told them they were well pleased with the consent they had expressed to the articles proposed to them on His Majesty's behalf.

Trade.

Spain.

The Secretary then laid before the Board the following accounts of losses sustained by the subjects of Great Britain from the Spaniards, viz:—

Losses.

A letter from the Duke of Newcastle, inclosing a memorial from the Venetian resident about the ship Hanover taken by the Spaniards.

A representation of the losses of John Crosse, jun., the British consul of the Canary Islands.

A letter from Mr. Burridge, relating to the loss of the shir Satisfaction.

Copy translated from the Spanish of the King of Spain's letter writ by the Marquis of Castellar to the intendants of the provinces of Spain and the Isles of the Canaries and Mallorca, dated the 16th of August, 1721, for putting in execution the 3rd article of the treaty of Madrid, the 13th June, 1721, about restoring the goods and effects seized from the English.

A letter from Mr. Samuel Frere, relating to the loss of the sloop Susanna, belonging to Lodwick Christian Sprogel, of Philadelphia.

A letter from Mr. Samuel Frere, in relation to the loss of the sloop Sarah and Mary.

The attestation of several persons, and a letter from Mr. Basnet, relating to the loss of the ship Penelope.

Memorial of Mr. Tobias Wall, relating to the loss of the ship Tryal.

The deposition of Thomas Marsingall and Robert Bailiffe, relating to the loss of the ship Crown.

An inventory of the ship Hope, of Bideford, belonging to George Buck and Co., merchants, seized by the Spaniards.

Account of the losses sustained by Mr. Lopez by the ship Farro, merchant, being taken by the Spaniards.

Memorial from Mr. Gray, relating to the great loss and damage, which the British trade had sustained by the Spaniards seizing our ships at the Bay of Campeachy, and depriving us of the logwood trade.

The several memorials of the following persons, relating to the loss and damage sustained by their several ships and goods being taken by the Spaniards, have been authenticated by proper officers at Doctors' Commons.
The loss:—
Of Thomas Gibbs, Joseph Wakely, Whitchurch, Phippen and Henry Parker.
Of James Hutchens.
Of James Porten.
Of Matthew Martin, Charles Eyres and James Porten.
Of Daniel Vincent.
Of Alard Belin, Mary Boucher, Henry Bertrand and Adam Roberts, and of Mary Boucher in particular.
Of Butler Chauncey, Thomas Cheshire and others.
Of William Cheshyre and Benjamin Foster.
Of Francis Gordon.
Of John Pitts.
Of Moses Mocatta.
Of John Jacob Heldt and Company.
Of Richard Score and Company.
Of John Rollings.
Of James Lomgar and Company.
Of Clement Cheesman.
Of Isaac Maccartney and Company.
Of Archibald Quill.
Of Aaron Burton.
Of John James.
Of John Richardson.
Of John Faulkner.
Of the late Right Honble. Archibald Earl of Rosebury and Henry Cunningham.
Of Messrs. Mathew Vernon and Anthony Webster.
Of Messrs. George Thomas and Isaac Bodington and Messrs. Horne and Company and John Evans.
Of Messrs. Cord King, Thomas Debuke and Isaac Clarke.
Of Claud Johnson and Company.
Of Lemuel Liddard and Company.
Of Robert Craig and Company.
Of Nicholas Skinner.
Of Thomas Missing and Thomas Blakely, Esqs.
Of Erasmus Hopper.
Of David Paynter.
Of Thomas Palmer, and
Of John Peachy.

Papers relating to the Hester sloop, taken by the Spaniards in 1722.

All to be sent to the Commissaries.

Ordered that the Secretary do enclose the said accounts of losses to the Commissaries in Spain.

Bahamas.

Letter from Mr. Shelton, about a lease from the Proprietors.

A letter from Mr. Shelton, Secretary to the Lords Proprietors of the Bahamas, in relation to a lease from the said Proprietors of the said Islands to certain leases, was read.

September 24. Present:—Mr. Docminique, Mr. Bladen, Mr. Brudenell.

Barbadoes.

Letter from the Duke of Newcastle.

Evacuation of these places.

Order prepared, and letter signed.

A letter from the Duke of Newcastle, dated the 15th of Sept., 1730, signifying His Majesty's pleasure that the Board do prepare the draught of an order for His Majesty's signature for the total evacuation of the islands of St. Vincent's, Santa Lucia and of Dominica, was read, and the draught of an order for that purpose being agreed, a letter, for inclosing the same to the Duke of Newcastle, was signed.

September 29. Present:—Mr. Docminique, Mr. Bladen, Mr. Brudenell.

Jamaica.

Letter from General Hunter.

A letter from General Hunter, Governor of Jamaica, to the Board, dated the 4th of July, 1730, was read, and the papers, therein referred to, were laid before the Board, viz:—
An address of the Assembly to send out parties after the rebellious negroes, dated the 18th of March, 1729.
Copy of Nicholas Plysham's examination, concerning the defeat of the parties, taken before His Excellency and the Council the 18th of June, 1730.
Copy of the examination of Captain Samuel Soper, concerning the defeat of the parties, taken before His Excellency and the Council the 25th of June, 1730.
Copy of the examination of Capt. Ascrost, concerning the defeat of the parties, taken before a committee of the Assembly in June, 1730.
General Hunter's speech.
The Assembly's address in answer to His Excellency's speech.
Resolutions of the Assembly concerning parties.
The 4th resolution of the committee for the better settling and strengthening the Island, etc., disagreed to by the House.
Copy of the deposition of John Tello, concerning the rebellious negroes' correspondence with the Spaniards.
William Quarrell's deposition, June the 23rd, 1730.
A calculation of the quantities and value of the produce and manufactures of Jamaica, shipped annually to Great Britain.
Copy of a scheme sent to each parish in Jamaica, for them to return a list of the inhabitants, etc.

A letter to the Duke of Newcastle, for enclosing a copy of the said letter, the two depositions and of the 4th resolution of the Assembly, was agreed and signed.

South Carolina.

Memorial from Sir Alex. Cuming.

Cherikce Indians.

A memorial from Sir Alex. Cuming, Bart., in relation to the Cherikee Indians, was read, and their Lordships resolved to consider further thereof at another opportunity.

Miscellanies.

If repairs are wanting application must be made to the Treasury.

The Secretary then acquainted the Board that he had received a letter from Mr. Leheup, one of the clerks of the Treasury, with a resolution of that Board, upon the letter sent to them the 8th inst., that, whenever any repairs are wanting in this office, application must be made there; whereupon ordered that a letter be wrote to the Lords of the Treasury, desiring the rails before this office may be repaired.

September 30. Present:—Mr. Docminique, Mr. Bladen, Mr. Brudenell.

S. Carolina.

Letter from Sir Alex. Cuming.

A letter from Sir Alex. Cuming, dated this day, relating to the desire of one of the Indian chiefs to continue in England with him, was read, and an answer thereto was agreed and ordered to be sent.

Trade.

Spain.

Letter to the Commissaries.

A letter to the Commissaries, directed to be prepared the 9th inst., for enclosing to them the several accounts of losses, etc., mentioned in that day's Minutes, was agreed and ordered to be sent.

Virginia.

Letter from Major Gooch, with papers.

A letter from Major Gooch, Lieutenant Governor of Virginia, dated the 23rd of July, 1730, was read, and the papers, therein referred to, were laid before the Board, viz:—
Minutes of Council, from the 22nd of October, 1729, to the 9th of July, 1730.
Minutes of Council in Assembly, from the 21st of May, 1730, to the 9th of July following.
Minutes of Assembly, from the 21st of May, 1730, to the 9th of July following.
Answer to queries, relating to the state and trade of Virginia.
Address of the Council and Assembly of Virginia to the King.
Copy of a memorial from Colonel Spotswood to the Lieutenant Governor and Council, for an arrear due to him on making a treaty with the Northern Indians, with an account of the charge of that expedition.
Copies of five proclamations, issued in Virginia in 1729 and 1730.
and Acts.
Twenty four public and five private Acts, passed in June and July, 1730.

Sent to Mr. Fane.

Ordered that the abovementioned public Acts be sent to Mr. Fane, for his opinion thereupon in point of law.

South Carolina.

Letter to the Duke of Newcastle, with Indian Chiefs' Articles.

A letter to the Duke of Newcastle, for enclosing a copy of the Articles proposed to the Indian chiefs of the Cherikee Nation the 7th inst., as also of the answer they gave the Board thereto the 9th, was agreed and signed.

Miscellanies.

Letter to the Treasury for Repairs, and Incidental charges.

A letter to the Lords of the Treasury, ordered yesterday to be prepared, desiring the rails before this Office may be repaired, was agreed and signed.

and Incidental charges

The Secretary then laid before the Board the account of petty expences and incidental charges for the service of this office, between Midsummer, 1730, and Michaelmas following, amounting to £266 12s. 3¾d.

And a letter to the Lords of the Treasury, desiring payment thereof, as also of one quarter's salary due to the Secretary and other officers at Michaelmas last, was agreed and signed.