House of Commons Journal Volume 1: 10 February 1606

Lunae, 10o Februarii, 1605

Ordinances for Wales.

1. Reading: - THE Bill for the better Explaining of a former Act, made in 34 and 35th H. VIII. concerning Ordinances made for Wales, and Establishing of the Lord President and Council there.

Hotham's Estate.

Mr. Parkinson reporteth Mr. Hotham's Bill, with Amendments; and, upon the Question, to be ingrossed; - Amendments read.

London; Poor, &c.

London; Poor; Misnaming of Corporations; Three Bills - Temple, Thursday.

Free Trade.

The Bill to enable free Trade : - 2. Reading.

Spanish Merchants.

Spanish Incorporation : - Added to the former; Mr. Solicitor, Mr. Whytson, Sir Tho. Smyth, Sir Rich. Bulkley, Sir John Jeffreyes, Sir Tho. Fleming: - Wednesday, Middle Temple.

Religion.

1. Reading: - The Bill for the better Establishing of true Religion.

Recusants.

Sir Chro. Perkins: -

Foreign Servitors;

Confining Recusants:

Adnulling Conveyances. -

For the first: - 1. Thought fit to proceed by Conference.

- Resolved by the House, to be stayed, until you hear from the Lords.

The Article, with some Amendments, brought in: - Six Months: - Return. -

That Foreign Princes should give some Caution: - Referred to the Lords.

Limiting: - Licences avoid Presentments.

Adnulling Conveyances: - Nothing done for want of Time.

Subsidy.

Sir Tho. Ridgeway: - For Subsidy. -

The Blessings: -

The Charge. -

Pacem Externam: -

Pacem Internam. -

Princeps: - Primus capiens. -

Causes of Charge:

Funeral of the Queen. -

Entrance into the Kingdom; King,Queen, and Prince. -

Entertainment of Ambassadors. -

Mass of Treasure exhausted by Ireland.

Her Majesty's Lying-in. -

The great Charge of the Houshold. -

Rewards to both Nations.

4. Commonwealth. -

Moses said, how could he alone bear their Strifes and Incumbrances, &c.

His Subjects offered; and he said Sufficit.

Moved for a Committee.

Sir Maurice Berkley: - Obligation of Duty, Obligation of Discretion.

Sir Edw. Mountague: - Two Duties :

Fear God : - Honour the King.

We have proceeded. - True Honour. -

Love:

Reverence :

Obedience:

Thankfulness :

Truth :

Justice : -

The Greatness of him that giveth. -

Freedom of the Gift. -

Speedy and chearful. -

Two Subsidies and Four Fifteens. - Two Fifteens in Easter.

Subsidy at Michaelmas.

Mr. Bond: - Manifold Benefits by his Majesty. -

Of a weak, feeble, and breathless Estate, become the most opulent, rich, and mighty Empire of Christendome. -

Animam Deo, corpus Regi. -

Non subsidium tantum, sed presidium, in Time of Peace. -

To fill the King's Coffers first. -

The King, fidus depositorius.

Sir Wm. Strowd: - For a Question presently.

Sir H. Poole: - A general Persuasion.

Sir Nath. Bacon: - A Consideration in the Fifteens: -

Subsidies more. Fifteens less. -

Subsidies less in Value, than heretofore.

Sir Fra. Hastings: - Offer Love for Love. -

Two Subsidies, and Four Fifteens. -

Amor Civium Regi inexpugnabile munimentum. -

Peace not hereditary. -

Provide before-hand. -

Strength of the King's Hand to the Hearts of his People. -

Ad omnem eventum, to give. - Qui cito dat, bis dat.

Mr. Solicitor: - The Gift in the Willingness of the Giver : - In Nature, as it ought to be : - Usual, dutiful, opportune. -

Prevent the higher House. -

Committee to consider of Increase, or the Manner of giving.

Sir Geo. Moore: - Citra et ultra: - Bounds in all things: - Multus miles, qui imperatorem suum gemens sequitur.

Mr. Hoskins .- - Not to knit the Two Ends of a Parliament together: - No Subsidy without a Bill; therefore a Committee.

Sir Wm. Morrice: - Three Causes: - Popish Faction abroad: - Alteration of the Fifteens within the City: -

Great Houses built instead of Cottages.

Sir Rob. Wingfield: - Inequality in the Subsidies and Fifteens, the greatest Grievance. -

Q. Touching the Subsidy, and a Proportion.

A Committee for the Manner, and the Bill.

Sir John Hollice: - Wisheth no Reasons had been used, but a Gift voluntary : - If no Accident, no other Reason. -

For a Commitment.

Mr. Fuller: - Put in Trust by the King and Commonwealth both: - Not to proceed without a Committee.

Sir Edwyn Sandys: - A Subsidy in Time of War, Necessity; - Peace, Matter of Love, Virtue, Thankfulness. -

One Reason more than used; Adversaries shewed ill Affection; redouble our good Affection. -

No Virtue hath his Perfection by One Circumstance, but by many. -

Largire de te, fili: Give of your own. Son.

The Poverty of the Land as much eased as may be. -

A Committee.

Mr. Martin: - Not to buy Laws, nor to indent but freely ; yet a Consideration. -

Meerly to manifest the general Love. -

A Committee for the Manner.

Sir Tho. Waller: - For a Committee.

Mr. Speaker: - For the Manner. -

Subsidy not put to Question without a Bill.

Quest. For a Committee : - Resolved.

Q. If a Bill shall be drawn for Two Subsidies, and Four Fifteens: - My Lord Howard, my Lord Clynton, Mr. Secretary Herbert, Sir Roger Aston, Mr. Solicitor, Sir Fr. Bacon, Sir Tho. Ridgeway, Sir Rob. Wingfield, Sir John Hollice, Sir Geo. Moore, Sir Henry Poole, Sir Chro. Perkins, Sir Fr. Hastings, Sir Edw. Mountague, Sir Henry Mountague, Sir John Scott, Sir Nath. Bacon, Sir Tho. Holcroft, all the Knights of the Shires, Mr. Yelverton, Mr. Wm. Mewse, Sir Wm. Wray, Sir Geo. St. Poll, Sir Vincent Skynner, Sir Edwin Sandys, Mr. Perkinson, Sir Wm. Selby, Sir Tho. Fleming, Sir Hugh Beeston, Sir Walter Cope, Sir Herbert Crofts, Sir Barnard Whytson, Mr. Hoskins, Sir Tho. Smyth, Sir Wm. Liggon, Mr. D. James, Mr. Bond, Sir Jerome Horsey, Sir John Luke, Mr. Godfrey: - To-morrow in the Afternoon, in Parliament-house.